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[18:44] [Terry] Who? Jason?
[18:44] [Shrike] yes
[18:45] [Terry] Well? You know what to do!
[18:45] [Shrike] face all red
[18:45] [StarfoxHowl] I know that, and you know tha Terry, but there are people HERE that won't even attempt to read a story written in FIRST PERSON.
[18:45] [Terry] That's their loss.
[18:45] [Terry] My latest story is first person. It makes the story better.
[18:45] [bane] im writing mine in first person, at lest most of it
[18:45] [Rebekah] i like 1st person
[18:46] [StarfoxHowl] I'd much prefer to write mine that way as well, it matches the way that I see it in my head.
[18:46] [Terry] First person is great for mysteries. You only see the clues through the eyes of the main character so you don't know everything.
[18:46] [StarfoxHowl] and who is Jason?
[18:46] [Terry] Shrike's baby!
[18:46] [Misty] First persojn should be done in the PSAT tense, pluleeze
[18:47] [Terry] Yes, of course first person should be past tense.
[18:47] [bane] what did you mean by narrated bekah?
[18:47] [bane] how could you do it other wise?
[18:47] [Terry] I'm reading a third person story in present tense and I'm having trouble getting used to it. It's so odd.
[18:47] [Terry] I like the story so I'm putting up with it.
[18:48] [Shrike] I have done both
[18:48] [Terry] Anyway, I also like first person because it feels more personal. I feel more connected with the character.
[18:48] [Shrike] Only fox who messes up tenses
[18:48] [StarfoxHowl] I may decide to re-write Venus in 1st person present tense.
[18:48] [Rebekah] a story told in a fashion the sound narrator
[18:48] [Terry] No! Not present tense. Please.
[18:48] [StarfoxHowl] Why not Terry?
[18:49] [Terry] Present tense isn't natural for storytelling. Things have already happened.
[18:49] [StarfoxHowl] no.. they have not happened... not the way that I see them.
[18:49] [Terry] Present tense is for screenplays but not much else.
[18:49] [StarfoxHowl] "We are going to the mall" not "we went to the mall"
[18:49] [Terry] Dialogue is present tense.
[18:50] [Terry] When it's not dialogue, it's the character relating an event to the reader - and that has to be in the past to make sense.
[18:50] [StarfoxHowl] "She is a very pretty cat-lady" I TOLD her.
[18:50] [Terry] Yeah. I said dialogue is present tense.
[18:50] [StarfoxHowl] boy is that a verb tense mis-match
[18:51] [Terry] And you told her, you aren't telling her.
[18:51] [Terry] That's past tense.
[18:51] [StarfoxHowl] but I can SAY... not SAID
[18:51] [Terry] You don't say, "I tell her."
[18:51] [Terry] No. I think "said" is better.
[18:51] [Terry] Always.
[18:51] [Terry] Told, said, mentioned, muttered
[18:52] [Rebekah] saidis past tense
[18:52] [StarfoxHowl] "She is a very pretty cat-lady" I say
[18:52] [Terry] I'd put the "I say" into the dialogue in that case.
[18:52] [Terry] "I say she is a very pretty cat-lady."
[18:52] [Rebekah] said is i did say therefore past tens
[18:52] [StarfoxHowl] then you're changing the dialoge
[18:53] [Terry] "I do say, I do I do."
[18:53] [Shrike] And bane messes up the language even more
[18:53] [Terry] We got that Rebekah. We're talking about using present tense versus past tense.
[18:53] [StarfoxHowl] I am you are he she or it is.
[18:53] [bane] hey i keep my tenses stright
[18:53] [Terry] Foxy wants to use present tense and I'm trying to talk him out of it.
[18:54] [StarfoxHowl] I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA!
[18:54] *** StarfoxHowl chuckles
[18:54] *** Shrike slaps fox
[18:54] [StarfoxHowl] EKK!
[18:54] [Terry] Sorry, Foxy. But when you write everything in present tense, it sounds like it has to happen too quickly.
[18:54] [StarfoxHowl] or is that EEEEEK!
[18:54] [Shrike] yeah but due, not do, and since when do you imitate chekov with "captin"
[18:54] [Terry] It turns into an impossible event list of instantaneous events.
[18:55] [StarfoxHowl] shrike.. eh???
[18:55] [Terry] Urk! Not Chekov! He drove me crazy with his "everything was invented in Russia" shtick.
[18:55] [StarfoxHowl] and even WHAT???
[18:55] [bane] ?
[18:55] [bane] who is chekov?
[18:56] [Terry] Star Trek
[18:56] [Shrike] Oh come on bane
[18:56] *** StarfoxHowl hands bane a clue
[18:56] [bane] oh traky stuff
[18:56] [Terry] Character on the original Star Trek series.
[18:56] [StarfoxHowl] and in most of the movies.
[18:56] [Terry] He was a young punk on the bridge.
[18:56] [Terry] Walter Koenig I think is the actor.
[18:56] [Shrike] Yep
[18:56] [StarfoxHowl] the actor played a very nasty man on Babalyon 5.
[18:57] [bane] she is a captin of a ship not a spaceship and i know i am misspelling captin i cant help it
[18:57] [Terry] I love Babylon 5!
[18:57] [Shrike] Yes a psi guy from omega
[18:57] [Terry] Captain
[18:57] [Terry] Yep. With the black leather gloves. Sexy. Heh.
[18:57] [StarfoxHowl] black leather everything.
[18:58] [Terry] I love leather gloves. They're cool.
[18:58] [StarfoxHowl] I was suprised that he could pull it off so well.
[18:58] [Terry] Why? He's an actor!
[18:58] [Terry] They ... act.
[18:58] [StarfoxHowl] yes, and have you see William Shatner in anything beside ST?
[18:59] [Terry] William Shatner was okay in the twilight zone.
[18:59] [Terry] But yeah, not all actors are good actors. Point taken.
[18:59] [StarfoxHowl] That was before he was Kirk.
[18:59] [Shrike] I guess this is the last I 2019ll see of you for a boy
[18:59] [Shrike] WHat is that about?
[18:59] [Terry] Are you saying the role of Kirk spoiled him?
[18:59] [Terry] What about T.J. Hooker and The Practice?
[19:00] [Rebekah] shatner also played in boston legal
[19:00] [Terry] I meant Boston Legal. *blush*
[19:00] [StarfoxHowl] The Practice?? I don't recall him in the Practice
[19:00] [StarfoxHowl] okay.
[19:00] [Rebekah] hehe
[19:00] [Terry] He wasn't.
[19:00] [Terry] I sloofed.
[19:00] [Terry] Or sploofed ... something like that. heh
[19:00] [StarfoxHowl] TJ Hooker was Captain Kirk with a squad car and a badge.
[19:00] [Shrike] He was in loaded weapon
[19:01] [Terry] Yeah! Go Hooker Kirk!
[19:01] [Terry] Kirk is a hooker?
[19:01] [Rebekah] washe really in loaded weapon 1
[19:01] [Rebekah] see it before the sequel comes out
[19:01] [Shrike] yes and in miss congeniality
[19:01] [Terry] Wow! He gets around.
[19:01] [StarfoxHowl] He was in one of the AIRPLANE moveis
[19:02] [Terry] Oh dear. I haven't eaten anything yet today. My stomach isn't happy with me. :(
[19:02] [Shrike] haven't eaten much today
[19:02] [Rebekah] i had a hot dog
[19:02] [Terry] It's 4 p.m. I should eat something.
[19:03] [Rebekah] and a single serving popcorn
[19:03] [StarfoxHowl] I'm eating goldfish at the moment.
[19:03] [Terry] Rhona will beat me with a stick if I starve myself.
[19:03] [Terry] Goldfish crackers? I love them.
[19:03] [Rebekah] yeah they are good
[19:03] [Shrike] 1.03 here
[19:03] [Terry] I love Teddy Grahams. I haven't had them in awhile. Now I've got a cravin'.
[19:03] [StarfoxHowl] Koi by any other name is still a carp.
[19:03] [Terry] Chocolate Teddy Grahams. Mmmmmm
[19:04] [StarfoxHowl] 4:33 a.m here.
[19:04] [Shrike] Don't make me drool for chocolate
[19:04] [StarfoxHowl] godiva!
[19:04] [StarfoxHowl] Hershey!
[19:04] [Terry] Yeah, Shrike. Jason must be up at all hours.
[19:04] [Terry] I like Dove dark chocolate.
[19:04] [Terry] Godiva is way overpriced.
[19:05] [Rebekah] i love dark chocolate
[19:05] [StarfoxHowl] I prefer the Hershey syrup, dribble it on my wife and nibble it off.
[19:05] [Terry] Dark chocolate is my fave. *sigh*
[19:05] [Rebekah] tmi
[19:05] [Terry] And it's good for you! :)
[19:05] [StarfoxHowl] And fun too.
[19:06] [Terry] Okay. You're away from home too much, Foxy.
[19:06] [Rebekah] dark chocolate is really good foru
[19:06] [Terry] yep. anti-oxidents!
[19:06] [StarfoxHowl] I'll be home on 18 april
[19:06] [bane] cant be, it tast good, nothing that tast good is good for you
[19:06] [Shrike] Ah bane, vasco says something twice, while it is obvious that it should be carlos
[19:07] [Terry] Bane! Don't say that! Fruit is awesome. I love grapes. *sigh*
[19:07] [Shrike] kiwi gold
[19:07] [Shrike] pear
[19:07] [bane] where at?
[19:07] [Terry] blueberries!
[19:07] [Shrike] just before they vamoose
[19:07] [Terry] Arrggg! I need to eat.
[19:07] [Shrike] go eat, but hurry back
[19:07] [StarfoxHowl] Bane.. are you trying to write in pigdan english for that story?
[19:07] *** Terry hears a growling stomach
[19:07] [Rebekah] pigdan english??
[19:07] [Terry] I won't be back if I go eat.
[19:08] [Shrike] He always writes in pigdan english, it's called texan
[19:08] [Shrike] WHy not?
[19:08] [Rebekah] why not terry?
[19:08] [Terry] Because I have zillions of things to do today.
[19:08] [Shrike] We don't get to talk to you that often
[19:08] [Shrike] And you reply my mails so sporadic
[19:08] [Shrike] :d
[19:08] [Terry] I know. That's because I'm busy. I have to do some work for the non-profit org. We met last night and I want to get to it while it's still fresh in my mind.
[19:08] [bane] ok i see it, fixed it
[19:09] [StarfoxHowl] what non-profit?
[19:09] [Terry] The specific non-profit is Downtown Emergency Services Center (desc.org).
[19:09] [Shrike] cat ling?
[19:10] [Terry] I joined the Taproot Foundation and they matched up my skills to DESC.
[19:10] [Shrike] But it doesn't pay well
[19:10] [Terry] I don't get any money for it, just satisfaction of helping others. :)
[19:10] [Shrike] Yeah, but that doesn't pay the rent
[19:10] [Terry] Nope. But it helps keep my skills sharp. I don't have money to donate, just time.
[19:11] [Terry] It works for both of us.
[19:11] [Shrike] Wish you had a job
[19:11] [Terry] It might look good on a resume. You never know.
[19:11] [Terry] I wish I had a paying job too.
[19:11] [Terry] So do millions of other people.
[19:12] [StarfoxHowl] You can thank Dear Leader for that mess.
[19:12] [Terry] It's not just one person. Everything is a mess.
[19:12] [Terry] No one person can be responsible for all of it.
[19:12] [Shrike] Did you see all the blue that I corrected?
[19:13] [StarfoxHowl] well... I'd like to talk to you about that Terry, but the rules of the room say no politics.
[19:13] [bane] yes thank you
[19:13] [bane] what did you think?
[19:13] [Shrike] too many typo's :p
[19:13] [Shrike] Fox, you can go private
[19:13] [Shrike] With terry
[19:13] [Terry] Think of it as MORFS politics. No one person has the power to control every company in the world.
[19:13] [bane] thats exspected
[19:14] [bane] Ryan does!!!
[19:14] [Terry] Not even the dreaded white man.
[19:14] [bane] :p
[19:14] [bane] he runs them
[19:14] [Terry] Errrr ... albino man?
[19:14] [StarfoxHowl] I think it's a good continuation of the story... a lot of the dialoge seems very sterotyped though.
[19:14] [bane] oh?
[19:14] [Terry] Oh! I'm good with dialogue.
[19:14] [bane] ya they whole good bye stuff
[19:15] [bane] not really a lot of ways to say it diffrently
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