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[15:00] [EMW] but precogs then can't do much
[15:00] [EMW] they can see things coming and do nothing
[15:00] [bane] where if you time trivled it was already accounted for in history becuse you whre there so it was part of history, you realy coudnt change anything
[15:01] [bane] i dont know about that
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[15:01] [bane] some precogs and see diffrent posible futures
[15:01] [destinybeast] hello everyone
[15:01] [EMW] yes but if there is only one future possible then why have them
[15:01] [bane] hi
[15:01] [EMW] hi
[15:01] [destinybeast] hello bane, hello EMW
[15:01] [bane] i dont think the predestend time line would affect them
[15:01] [destinybeast] so what are you talking about?
[15:01] [Rebekah] heya db how goes
[15:02] [destinybeast] hi beks
[15:02] [destinybeast] im fine u?
[15:02] [Rebekah] how are u
[15:02] [destinybeast] so are you talking about precogs?
[15:02] [Rebekah] oops lol
[15:02] [Rebekah] im doing alright
[15:03] [bane] there would still see posibilites becuse and act on them, they dont know thay are predestend to pick the one they do
[15:03] [bane] thats if they are using there precog power to try and change what they see as the future
[15:03] [destinybeast] here is my belief on precognition. The future is predetermined by the actions of those who shape it.
[15:03] [bane] cant read your text
[15:03] [destinybeast] here is my belief on precognition. The future is predetermined by the actions of those who shape it. lol last one was to bright
[15:03] [bane] too bright
[15:04] [EMW] just a little bright :S
[15:04] [EMW] :D
[15:04] [destinybeast] basically the future is predetermined but only by the people and there actions.
[15:05] [destinybeast] so what do you think?
[15:05] [bane] a precog or at lest one type of precog isnt realy seeing the future so much as calculating likly out comes
[15:05] [destinybeast] yep
[15:06] [bane] maybe there are other precogs that realy see the future and they cant do anythihg to change what will happen
[15:06] [bane] other kinds of precog*
[15:07] [destinybeast] basically people who are seeing through time not actually seeing the future right? like an extra sense that allows them to see through the timeline.
[15:08] [bane] what?
[15:08] [EMW] msot of the precogs we've seen so far have seen either future and changed it or somehow a wrong future that made them avoid it
[15:08] [EMW] I see what you mean db
[15:08] [bane] maybe they arnt seeing the future but probubly outcomes
[15:08] [EMW] they are interpolating
[15:08] [EMW] not actually seeing into time
[15:09] [bane] right
[15:09] [bane] or dose morfs have a changeable time line?
[15:09] [bane] i dont think you ever realy answered, or i already forgot :p
[15:09] [destinybeast] you know people, detectives that can see what happened at a crime scene just by looking at the things around him?
[15:09] [EMW] I don't know I've been trying to find out :S
[15:09] [destinybeast] or people who can do that naturally?
[15:10] [EMW] yeah
[15:10] [bane] postcogs
[15:10] [bane] well there is a fancer name for it but i dont remember it
[15:10] [EMW] I know what you did last summer :D
[15:10] [destinybeast] well what bane is suggesting about precogs is that they basically do the same thing subconciously on a larger scale but instead of the past they calculate the future right bane?
[15:11] [bane] yes kind of i think
[15:11] [EMW] we've had time multiplication
[15:11] [EMW] and someone alter the timeline by mistake
[15:11] [bane] yes in shave
[15:11] [bane] shave and a hair cut
[15:11] [EMW] at least in shave and a haircut not sure if those are cannon anymore
[15:11] [EMW] yes
[15:11] [bane] any other stories?
[15:12] [EMW] and in angel
[15:12] [bane] yes but i dont remember them acualy changing the past
[15:12] [EMW] the time multiplcation thing where they use multiple copus
[15:12] [EMW] copys
[15:12] [destinybeast] yeah, i've got a question could you have a morf that increases other morf powers?
[15:12] [EMW] of the same person
[15:12] [destinybeast] like when there in vicinity or something like that?
[15:12] [bane] dont know
[15:13] [EMW] I've seen that idea mentiond in the forums
[15:13] [EMW] but I forget what the decison was
[15:13] [bane] in angel dose the time line get changed or do they just do funny things in it?
[15:13] [EMW] hard to say
[15:13] [EMW] they warn their past selves when the attack will happen and then they have multiple copies running at once
[15:14] [bane] i dont know if multiple copies would change the time line....
[15:14] [EMW] not if it is linear
[15:14] [bane] you would have that anyway with any time trivle
[15:15] [destinybeast] but time isn't in a straight line so if you come into contact with your future self nothing will happen but you just have a very interesting conversation, or you may end up kicking your own butt
[15:15] [bane] oh, you mean like geting your past self to come help you but that never happened you your past?
[15:15] [destinybeast] yes
[15:15] [Dangerous] You can't go to the future
[15:15] [EMW] why not
[15:15] [Dangerous] ONly to the past
[15:16] [bane] why not?
[15:16] [destinybeast] no but your future can come into the past right?
[15:16] [destinybeast] anf why not?
[15:16] [EMW] that is the only time travel that actually conforms to the laws of physics
[15:16] [destinybeast] why can't you go to the future?
[15:16] [EMW] travel up to the speed of light
[15:16] [destinybeast] EMW has a point
[15:16] [EMW] time slows down relative to your suroundings
[15:17] [EMW] one minute passes for you years could pass elsewhere
[15:17] [bane] hmmm but thas still relitive, the time line dosent change wit that
[15:17] [Dangerous] future is not written yet
[15:18] [EMW] it is
[15:18] [EMW] time is non linear
[15:18] [destinybeast] you could actually travel into the future, the future is never written in stone but it doesn't stop it from existing
[15:18] [bane] so your runing on the idea that there is a "now"
[15:18] [EMW] the now here is not the same as the now elsewhere
[15:19] [Dangerous] You can go to a future maybe
[15:19] [EMW] space time is not uniform
[15:19] [Dangerous] doesn't have to be the one that is going to happen
[15:19] [destinybeast] as long as people exist a future will always exist no matter what it is
[15:19] [bane] thats reletive to you, i think if you where out side of time it would all be the same
[15:20] [destinybeast] like a Standstill right?
[15:20] [Dangerous] title of a new story?
[15:20] [destinybeast] :)
[15:20] [destinybeast] no
[15:20] [EMW] oh i read that story you sent me shrike ... is that all of it?
[15:21] [bane] well thats another time line theroy, i dont think any have been proved :p
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[15:21] [EMW] hey moo
[15:21] [bane] it makes time travile diffuculte though
[15:21] [bane] hey moo
[15:21] [moo] heylo
[15:21] [Dangerous] hi moo
[15:21] [destinybeast] hi moo
[15:21] [moo] ooo time travel talk
[15:21] [Dangerous] back to starwars
[15:21] [moo] ?
[15:21] [moo] hi dangerous
[15:21] [moo] hi destinybeast
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[15:21] [moo] hi matt
[15:22] [moo] hi nuke
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[15:22] [moo] NINA!!!!!
[15:22] [moo] hi
[15:22] [bane] hmmm lot at once
[15:22] [Rebekah] heya baby
[15:22] [nukedanger] good afternoon
[15:22] [moo] o and hi bane and bekah
[15:22] [dragonprincess9] hi
[15:22] [destinybeast] hi
[15:22] [Rebekah] heya moo
[15:22] Nick change: moo -> Moo
[15:22] [EMW] hi
[15:22] [Moo] hi
[15:22] [nukedanger] I just replied to pete's note about "Paws and Effect"
[15:22] [Moo] and?
[15:23] [nukedanger] hopefully he won't freak out
[15:23] [Moo] what was the note?
[15:23] [destinybeast] Hey does anyone know when shrike is online, I need to speak to him.
[15:23] [nukedanger] don't'cha have an e-mail list?
[15:23] [EMW] dangerous => shrike
[15:23] [destinybeast] oh
[15:23] [Moo] huh?
[15:23] [destinybeast] lol
[15:23] [nukedanger] well, asking "Who Amest Thou", in effect
[15:23] [EMW] he keeps changing his nick
[15:23] [Moo] hes weird
[15:23] [Moo] .....like the rest of us
[15:24] [nukedanger] "just a little bit dangerous"
[15:24] [destinybeast] dangerous can I speak to you in private for a moment
[15:24] [bane] i think he left to watch starwars
[15:24] [destinybeast] oh
[15:24] [Moo] pm him anyway, he'll read it when he returns
[15:24] [nukedanger] gawd, how old are you all?
[15:24] [Moo] you first, nuke
[15:24] [Rebekah] to old
[15:24] [EMW] ancient
[15:24] [nukedanger] 55
[15:24] [destinybeast] huh
[15:24] [Moo] 0_o
[15:24] [nukedanger] well, in 3 weeks
[15:25] [EMW] not that ancient :S
[15:25] [Moo] really?
[15:25] [EMW] :D
[15:25] *** dragonprincess9 hugs bekah
[15:25] [Moo] really really?
[15:25] [destinybeast] well got to go and leave you old timers to speak lol
[15:25] [bane] whats so odd about that?
[15:25] [bane] got people of all ages here
[15:25] [EMW] indeed
[15:25] [nukedanger] well... "Why, when I was your age, computers, we didn't even HAVE ones, all we had were Zeros... and we were thankful!"
[15:25] [destinybeast] lol see ya later
[15:25] [Moo] i know, but he doesnt write like a 55 year old
[15:25] [Moo] is it he?
[15:25] destinybeast (~destinybeast@cstgfgcgtsfgcstg) left irc: Quit: Bye Bye
[15:26] Nick change: dragonprincess9 -> Nina
[15:26] [nukedanger] yes, i am an ancient man, otherwise I would not have warped Firesign Theater's character name of "Nick Danger"
[15:26] [Rebekah] hehe
[15:27] *** Rebekah sits in ninas lap
[15:27] [nukedanger] In any case, my opportunity to be on-line for any length of time is limited so I usually prefer an e-mail based arrangement, as we have in the Swarm Author's mailing list
[15:27] [bane] well anyway im staying away for time els they couse to much truble
[15:28] [Moo] they do indeed
[15:28] [Moo] except for flit
[15:28] [Moo] she was well planned and executed
[15:28] [EMW] she causes loads of trouble
[15:28] [EMW] :P
[15:28] [Moo] ...the concept, that is
[15:28] [nukedanger] All right, Male, almost 55, married almost 29 years, four childrem (two step) 35, 34, 36 and 14
[15:28] [Moo] wow
[15:28] [Moo] congrats
[15:29] [Moo] im male, 21, in college, single
[15:29] [nukedanger] and I've been a geek since my teens
[15:29] [Moo] .....and i like long walks in the rain
[15:29] [Moo] :P
[15:29] [Rebekah] 29 TG attached to nina
[15:29] [nukedanger] "they were very attached to one another"
[15:29] [nukedanger] "where?
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