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[02:05] [marful] and tights!
[02:05] [bane] lol
[02:05] [marful] and tight underwear and bras on the babes!
[02:05] [moo] but the government knows who they sre
[02:05] [moo] sre
[02:05] [marful] mmmmmmm.....
[02:05] [moo] interesting, no?
[02:05] [marful] and what are they going to do?
[02:05] [marful] The gov new about sanura, fat lot they could do
[02:05] [moo] catch MORFed criminals
[02:05] [bane] i dont think you could have the gov know who they are, thats what i am saying
[02:06] [moo] it easy to find out
[02:06] [moo] they dont get told
[02:06] [moo] ok
[02:06] [moo] heres wwhat would happen
[02:06] [marful] One problem is the Morfs Registry run by Sanura
[02:06] [moo] what problem?
[02:06] [moo] id register them
[02:06] [bane] wouldnt be around yet
[02:06] [moo] oh
[02:06] [moo] hmmm
[02:06] [marful] because so many local agencies have access to it, it is at risk of being compromised
[02:07] [moo] well, theyd be discovered through camera footage, and analysis
[02:07] [bane] ya
[02:07] [moo] so theyd be in confidential files
[02:07] [marful] it would be impossible to have a database system with that much accessability and be totally secure. But if we are talking pre-morfs registry then it has to be 2020~ish time period
[02:07] [moo] still discoverable
[02:07] [moo] yea
[02:07] [moo] not foolproof
[02:07] [moo] but the best way to keep it hidden, is to have no one looking for it
[02:07] [bane] they might have a precerser to the database
[02:08] [moo] no
[02:08] [moo] regular high-risk info
[02:08] [marful] in Wolf's Tale 2020ish they didn't
[02:08] [marful] they JUST setup the morfs centers
[02:08] [bane] maybe midical cases from when they treated it as a epudimec
[02:08] [marful] there is a medical database but it is not very user friendly
[02:08] [marful] and some doctors use different ones so it's hard to cross reference and share
[02:09] [bane] im just thinking what would they do when morfs first started
[02:09] [marful] I'd say picking up the attention of high-level intel specialists in NSA/FBI/CIA and then using standard investigative means to collect data would be the way they track powerful morfs
[02:09] [bane] i could see them seting up a system to recored what happened in each morf as they tryed to figure out what was happening
[02:09] [bane] that too
[02:10] [moo] so heres how im thinking it would happen: a group of high powered MORFS band together and start a superhero team (why not?) they do a whole bunch of things and get noticed. a government message is sent to them to meet. theyre met by a guy from the government who tells them that theyre identities are known, and if they dont follow these rules, theyll be exposed and arrested for vigilantism. the team decides to do it
[02:10] [moo] it doesnt need to be specific
[02:10] [moo] im not planning to go into any details
[02:10] [bane] ok
[02:10] [moo] after all, the main character doesnt know all that
[02:10] [marful] It's all moot though, cause all it takes is a single technopath /electrical elemental to mess things up
[02:10] [moo] how?
[02:10] [moo] oh
[02:10] [bane] i could see some one high up in gov going rouge and doing that
[02:11] [moo] he wouldnt find it though, if hes not looking
[02:11] [moo] only the top few would know
[02:11] [bane] they could just keep recored on paper
[02:11] [marful] in 2020?
[02:11] [moo] there wouldnt be anyone to betray
[02:11] [marful] come on =P
[02:11] [moo] because itd be their death if they did
[02:11] [moo] still
[02:11] *** Nina sits on bekah's bed waiting for her
[02:11] [Nina] :(
[02:11] [moo] if the info did get out
[02:11] [bane] why not, you have people with scary powers messing with computers i would keep it on paper
[02:12] [marful] the problem with the whole threatening the super team thing is, what are they going to threaten them with? They would effectively be the most powerful good guys since there aren't that many morfs with that huge powers, yet
[02:12] [Nina] lol
[02:12] [moo] theyd just lose an advantage they didnt have in the first place
[02:12] [moo] they arent god
[02:12] [moo] just some high powered elementals, and/or super strong
[02:12] [bane] and dont you think the gov would snap up supers for working for them?
[02:12] [moo] MORFS
[02:12] [moo] what do you mean?
[02:13] [marful] bane: the impression I'm getting is that the gov is full of prejudiced people
[02:13] [moo] yes
[02:13] [marful] I mean look at our current politicies
[02:13] [Rebekah] heyhey
[02:13] [marful] politicians I mean
[02:13] [bane] corruped yes, stupid no
[02:13] [Nina] yay bekah
[02:13] [moo] Canada is the most apathetic country i know in terms of politics
[02:13] [marful] hi Rebekah!
[02:13] [moo] hi bekah!
[02:13] [bane] they would use what they found usful
[02:13] *** Nina jumps on bekah hugging her tightly
[02:13] [moo] and free
[02:13] *** Rebekah hugs nina
[02:13] [moo] thats the sell point
[02:13] [bane] hey bekah!
[02:13] [moo] the team doesnt need to be paid
[02:13] [chibi_zoned_out] yay beckahs bac
[02:13] [Rebekah] hey moo, bane
[02:13] *** marful jumps on bekah and nina (ouch!)"
[02:14] [moo] hi bekah
[02:14] [bane] im sure CIA FBI NSA all those have morfs with powers working for them
[02:14] [Rebekah] hey chibi
[02:14] [moo] maybe
[02:14] [bane] and military would want supers too
[02:14] *** Nina pushes marful off bekah is all mine
[02:14] [marful] I dunno, I would say it all depends on whos in charge of the .gov at the time
[02:14] [Nina] bekah is mine
[02:14] [marful] lol
[02:14] [moo] but a free team of high powered MORFS taking care of the MORFed criminal element, much quicker, faster and cleaner than the legal process?
[02:15] [Nina] where have u been all day bekah?
[02:15] [bane] well each person in gov has someone working under them that could use morfs behind there back
[02:15] [moo] I cant see a capitalist nation turning that down
[02:15] [Rebekah] it was saturday ... DND
[02:15] [marful] Moo: one thing, if the morfs new the law they could do that legally. There are laws allowing private citizens to make arrests
[02:15] [moo] not in 2020
[02:15] [Nina] i thought so
[02:15] [moo] i know
[02:15] [Nina] i really misses u
[02:15] [moo] but in canada, at least, theyre VERY specific
[02:15] [marful] The only difference in a LEO (law enforcement officer) and a civie is immunities and indemnifications. They both effectively have the same powers
[02:15] *** Nina hugs bekah tightly and doesn't let her go
[02:15] [moo] it doesnt matter though, the team has a personal jail
[02:15] *** Rebekah holds nina
[02:16] [moo] citizens arrest ends with the police
[02:16] [marful] ooh... personal jail = nono in US =P
[02:16] [marful] true moo
[02:16] [moo] there you go
[02:16] [marful] good point
[02:16] [bane] they would need a lot of money to have a jail....
[02:16] [marful] jailing... is a not good idea =P
[02:16] [marful] Exactly bane
[02:16] [moo] thats why, legally, the team would be kidnapping. but nobody is going to look for them
[02:16] Nick change: chibi_zoned_out -> chibois
[02:16] [Nina] i only have a slight idea what u are talking about
[02:16] [marful] in CA, we spend $75k a year for a single inmate
[02:16] [marful] I wish I made $75k a year T_T
[02:17] [moo] um....elementals? high powered MORF abilities? they have plaenty of money AND they have the resources to build it themselves
[02:17] [bane] why wouldnt the gov have there own jail for morfs? why would they want this one used thats not in there power and aginst the law?
[02:17] [moo] one will be a high powered metal elemental
[02:17] [moo] because it IS in their power
[02:17] [moo] let me explain
[02:18] [moo] the team is self operated
[02:18] [moo] but is monitered by the government
[02:18] [moo] and has to follow the governments rules
[02:18] [bane] but if anyone found out that a polition was supporting or know about it they would be dead meat
[02:18] [moo] and by government, i mean the people in charge
[02:18] [moo] exacty
[02:18] [bane] ?
[02:18] [marful] why even jail them? There are the bad guys that can be reformed and those that can't . Get a telepath, do a scan 38¢ for a bullet to those that can't be reformed and rehab for those who can
[02:18] [moo] and when that happens, the team will disband, and all the MORFS they captured would be let free
[02:19] [moo] maybe
[02:19] [moo] marful, that might be
[02:19] [moo] but theres a big leap from illegal jailment, to execution
[02:19] [bane] by would a politation -most of who are cowards- put himself in that kind of risk?
[02:19] [marful] I'm uh... unsympathetic for violent hardened criminals =P
[02:19] [moo] not a politian
[02:19] [moo] me too
[02:19] [moo] but theres a line
[02:19] [bane] then who?
[02:19] [marful] bane: no way they would. not without a fall guy
[02:19] [bane] who is the gov guy that supports them?
[02:19] [moo] theres always a fall guy
[02:20] [moo] a high end executive
[02:20] [moo] theres two types of government guy
[02:20] [marful] there also has to be financial or political incentive
[02:20] [moo] excluding military
[02:20] [marful] the poliltician has to gain financially or politicallyh
[02:20] [bane] right! thats what im geting at
[02:20] [moo] financially and politically
[02:20] [marful] and/or yeah
[02:21] [bane] why wouldnt they have a system to put the criminals in? why use a illigal one?
[02:21] [moo] now, i am DEFINATELY not going into true detail here
[02:21] [moo] because i dont know enough about the canadian or the americna political system
[02:21] [marful] good question bane
[02:21] [moo] illegal is quicker, cheaper, more efficient
[02:21] [bane] but much more dangerus
[02:21] [marful] in the US our criminal system is designed to rail-road people whether they are innocent or guilty. Only in high-profile cases can one wiggle out of culpability
[02:21] [moo] and the lack of appeals or trials means a 100% success rate
[02:21] [bane] and they would need a real system anyway
[02:22] [moo] yes
[02:22] [bane] what about all the crimenals your guys dont get?
[02:22] [moo] for lower powered
[02:22] [moo] well, think about this:
[02:22] [moo] high powered MORF criminals would NEVER stand trial anyway
[02:22] [moo] theyd either get away, or die trying
[02:22] [moo] usually the former
[02:22] [bane] i dont know about that
[02:23] [marful] I could see a few getting caught, depending on their abilities being able to be countered
[02:23] [bane] high powered arnt invensble
[02:23] [marful] think Magneto in Xmen
[02:23] [moo] then ill make it earlier
[02:23] [bane] shoot them and they go down
[02:23] [marful] habeas corpus
[02:23] [moo] Magneto would be unstoppable if you didnt have xavier
[02:23] [bane] and they dont nessusarly die when shot
[02:23] [marful] and 4th-5th amendment constitutional rights
[02:23] [moo] ?
[02:24] [moo] well, either way, im going to be vague when i do it
[02:24] [marful] Right to pressumption of innocence, and trial by jury
[02:24] [moo] so ill have time to think of a way
[02:24] [marful] and attorney
[02:24] [moo] yes
[02:24] [moo] the whole point of it is to bypass those rights
[02:24] [bane] ok look at this sunario
[02:24] [moo] of MORFed criminals
[02:24] [moo] the logic is that they dont deserve those rights
[02:24] [bane] a fire elemental is burning down a building becuse he is pissed off
[02:24] [moo] ok....
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